DraStic

organic io wrote: Uh Trackmania and New Super Mario Bros are definitely 3D. I also noticed that in N+, the ninja looks crisper with high res 3d. Agreed that Ketsui will probably not look any different because it's purely 2d pixel art.

I never owned or tried track mania so thanks for letting me know. As for New Super Mario Brothers I am not sure if it is really 3d or just clever use of sprites to look kinda 3d. Basically not sure if it is handled with 3d models or just with classic 2d sprites.

You could say its 2.5D, when its in world map its 3D that's how I see it from my perspective.

Kyousuke753 wrote:You could say its 2.5D, when its in world map its 3D that's how I see it.

It is less about how it looks and more about hownit is generated. Final Fantasy 7 or 8 or even 9 would be a great example. The character models were made up of polygons and were full 3d. The backgrounds in a lot of areas looked 3d but were not 3d at all. It was just clever use of perspective and very nicely drawn art. I mean wolfenstien 3d itself is not actually 3d but 2.5d or pseudo 3d.

Now New Super Mario Brothers could be like blazblue, street fighter 4/5, or ssmb. With fully 3d models for the characters/scenery pieces or it could just be clever artwork that makes it look that way. To the end user it generally does not matter, but it is something I have always had an interest in and it does change how some high rez emulator options effect graphics.

Kyousuke753 wrote:its strange to see you using DraStic on the GPD XD...but oh well heres why http://www.drastic-ds.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2940

I don't use the crappy built in illegal emulators... Plus, like I said Exophase definitely deserves my money

TkSilver wrote:

Kyousuke753 wrote:You could say its 2.5D, when its in world map its 3D that's how I see it.

It is less about how it looks and more about hownit is generated. .

Correct. Gameplay wise, it's 2d. But the graphics are a mix of 3d polygons and 2d sprites. While for some reason I thought everything was 3D, I've looked at it again and the backgrounds are clearly 2d, as are most of the objects including the enemies. Mario himself is 3d, as are some of the powerups and the bigger coins. It's really easy to tell what's 3d, because it increases in clarity when you enable the high res 3d rendering, while everything else stays the same.

organic io wrote:

TkSilver wrote:

Kyousuke753 wrote:You could say its 2.5D, when its in world map its 3D that's how I see it.

It is less about how it looks and more about hownit is generated. .

Correct. Gameplay wise, it's 2d. But the graphics are a mix of 3d polygons and 2d sprites. While for some reason I thought everything was 3D, I've looked at it again and the backgrounds are clearly 2d, as are most of the objects including the enemies. Mario himself is 3d, as are some of the powerups and the bigger coins. It's really easy to tell what's 3d, because it increases in clarity when you enable the high res 3d rendering, while everything else stays the same.

Nice to know I had mot played it yet in drastic let alone with the high res option so I was unsure how it was done. So it is basically like super smash bros or street fighter 4/5 them with poly characters and 2d backgrounds. Thanks for the info.

organic io wrote:

Kyousuke753 wrote:its strange to see you using DraStic on the GPD XD...but oh well heres why http://www.drastic-ds.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2940

I don't use the crappy built in illegal emulators... Plus, like I said Exophase definitely deserves my money

I apologise for questioning you, I didn't mean to target you or anything but just reading a thread about it made me curious that's all.

So it's clever use of perspective, both of you nailed the explanation.
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